Here's food for thought from a slice of my preliminary analysis of the eyewitness record I have on my shelf: Times New RomanIn terms of proof, physical evidence ranks number one with prosecutors and scientists, while eyewitness testimony ranks lower, certainly no higher than second. Yet eyewitness testimony is an important part of the 911 puzzle. As far as I can tell, there is a dearth of testimony from disinterested witnesses affirming flights into the WTC towers. Consider the first plane that flew into the North Tower: many thousands of people in Central Park plus northbound drivers, passengers and pedestrians along First, Second and Third Avenues, Lexington Avenue, Park Avenue, Madison Avenue, Fifth Avenue, Avenue of the Americas, Broadway, etc., would have seen a low-flying AA Boeing 767 thundering south/southwest down the island of Manhattan. At high speed it would have been incredibly noisy, extraordinary and a bit scary. At 400+ mph the jetliner would have taken approximately one minute to fly less than seven miles from just north of Central Park into the North Tower, plenty of time to see and track such a large plane. Thousands of disinterested eyewitnesses could have confirmed a Boeing 767 flying overhead if the official story were true but I’ve not seen such interviews. I’ve searched the internet in vain for credible “street interviews.” Help me. The witnesses offered are largely media people, “anonymous” or those who do not confirm a jetliner flying into a tower at all. From a legal, adversarial point of view, most WTC “eyewitness” testimony in favor of large airliners is vulnerable. Get them in court and cross-examine them under oath. That’s a whole new ball game and I strongly suspect that an attorney of the "Gerard Holmgren" variety would crush them. We do not even need that, as suggested below (and I can deliver more). CNN, otherwise known as the Complicit News Network, was the lead dog that day, quickly setting up the party line within minutes. 0000,0000,FFFFhttp://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/america.remembers/sept11.section.html 0000,0000,FFFFhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/748464/posts At 8:46 a.m., according to CNN, “Flight 11 slams into the World Trade Center’s north tower at an estimated speed of more than 400 mph and explodes in a huge fireball. The plane, loaded with 16,000 pounds of jet fuel, tears a gaping hole in the building and sets it afire.” Then at 8:49 a.m. “CNN Anchor Carol Lin interrupts a commercial with the breaking news: ‘This just in. You are looking at obviously a very disturbing live shot there. That is the World Trade Center, and we have unconfirmed reports this morning that a plane has crashed into one of the towers of the World Trade Center.’” Question: who called in these unconfirmed reports? We’ll never know. CNN writers probably had it scripted in advance. Here’s the key to CNN coverage that day: at 8:54 a.m. Sean Murtagh, CNN’s vice president of finance and administration, “witnessed the crash from his nearby office” and tells [CNN Anchor Carol ]“Lin via an on-air phone call that the plane that hit the north tower was a ‘large commercial passenger jet.’” Uh huh. “My office faces south toward…the…what,…where the trade center used to be and… probably caught the last 5-6 seconds of flight of the first plane flying straight into the north tower. Impact, fireball and when it hit, it was like, you got like a thud in your stomach, like did I just see what I just saw?” Uh huh. Here's what is wrong with Murtagh’s statement: first, CNN offices then were at 5 Penn Plaza on W. 33d street, almost three miles north of WTC, a 10-minute ride, not a walk. That’s not “nearby” by my lights. Second, facing south from an office on the 21st floor sounds good but it’s not a good vantage point because the plane would fly by in a flash, too fast to get a real fix on what it was. Third, the plane would take over 20 seconds to arrive at the north tower, not “the last 5-6 seconds of flight” claimed. Murtagh’s timing is off by an order of magnitude. While hugely effective, Murtagh is not credible. Fourth, CNN led its coverage with a report from one of its own executives about a large airliner flying into the North Tower. They did not even have enough respect for the audience to interview a hired actor on the street, instead putting the lie “in plain view” by broadcasting it from a CNN employee. Fifth, Murtagh is a lousy actor, with a flat, disinterested delivery that no appalled American watching an airliner fly into the North Tower could possibly muster. Ok, let's continue for a bit. We all know that some truth leaks out in early media coverage of a disaster. It's almost amusing how Murtagh's lie is immediately overturned by the first unidentified female witness who insists the North Tower hit came from inside, and then the second, Jeanne Yurman, who reports a sonic boom. Neither witness confirms Murtagh's report of a large airliner. Times New RomanCNN transcript 9/11 0000,0000,FFFFhttp://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.01.html Arial

CNN BREAKING NEWS

Terrorist Attack on United States Times Aired September 11, 2001 - 08:48 ET Times New Roman

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

Times THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: This just in. You are looking at obviously a very disturbing live shot there. That is the World Trade Center, and have unconfirmed reports this morning that a plane has crashed into one of the towers of the World Trade Center. CNN Center right now is just beginning to work on this story, obviously calling our sources and trying to figure out exactly what happened. But clearly, something relatively devastating happening this morning there on the south end of the island Manhattan. That is, once again, a picture of one of the towers of the World Trade Center. VINCE CELLINI, CNN ANCHOR: We could see these pictures. It's obviously something devastating that has happened. And again, there are unconfirmed reports that a plane has crashed into one of the towers there. We are efforting more information on the subject as it becomes available to you. LIN: Right now we've got Sean Murtagh -- he is a CNN producer -- on the telephone. Sean, what can you tell us what about you know? SEAN MURTAGH, CNN PRODUCER: This is Sean Murtagh. I just was standing on the vice president of the vice president of finance for CNN. CELLINI: Shaun, we're on the air right now. What you can tell us about the situation? MURTAGH: Hello? CELLINI: Yes, Sean, you are on the air right now. Go ahead. What you can tell us? MURTAGH: I just witnessed a plane that appeared to be cruising at slightly lower-than-normal altitude over New York City, and it appears to have crashed into -- I don't know which tower it is -- but it hit directly in the middle of one of the World Trade Center towers. LIN: Sean, what kind of plane was it? Was it a small plane, a jet? MURTAGH: It was a jet. It looked like a two-engine jet, maybe a 737. LIN: You are talking about a large passenger commercial jet. MURTAGH: A large passenger commercial jet. LIN: Where were you when you saw this? MURTAGH: I am on the 21st floor of 5 Penn Plaza. LIN: Did it appear that the plane was having any difficulty flying? MURTAGH: Yes, it did. It was teetering back and forth, wingtip to wingtip, and it looks like it crashed into, probably, 20 stories from the top of the World Trade Center, maybe the 80th to 85th floor. There is smoke billowing out of the World Trade Center. LIN: Sean, what happened next? Does it appear to you that the plane is still inside the World Trade Center? MURTAGH: From my angle -- I'm viewing south towards the Statue of Liberty and the World Trade Center. It looks like it has embedded in the building. I can't see, from my vantage point whether it has come out the other side. CELLINI: Sean, what about on the ground or any debris that has hit down there? MURTAGH: My vantage point is too far from the World Trade Center to make any determination of that. LIN: Did you see any smoke, any flames coming out of engines of that plane? MURTAGH: No, I did not. The plane just was coming in low, and the wingtips tilted back and forth, and it flattened out. It looks like it hit at a slight angle into the World Trade Center. I can see flames coming out of the side of the building, and smoke continues to billow. CELLINI: Generally, is that a trafficked area in New York for aircraft? MURTAGH: It is not a normal flight pattern. I'm a frequent traveler between Atlanta and New York for business, and it is not a normal flight pattern to come directly over Manhattan. Usually, they come up either over the Hudson River, heading north, and pass alongside, beyond Manhattan, or if they are taking off from LaGuardia, they usually take off over Shea Stadium and gain altitude around the island of Manhattan. It is rare you have a jet crossing directly over the island of Manhattan. LIN: For our viewers who are just tuning in right now, you are looking at live picture of the World Trade Center tower, where, according to eyewitness Sean Murtagh -- he is the vice president of finance and eyewitness to what he describes as a twin-engine plane -- or possibly a 737 passenger jet -- flying into the World Trade Center. It appears to be still embedded inside the building. Sean, are you in a position to hear whether any sirens are going, any ambulances, any response to this yet? MURTAGH: Not from my vantage point. I am probably 1 1/2 to two miles from the World Trade Center. LIN: It is a remarkable scene: flames still coming out of the windows, black smoke billowing from what appears to be all sides. Obviously, windows are shattered, and steel is jutting out from the structure right now. CELLINI: Sean, we are looking at these pictures. MURTAGH: I see them in my office. I have them on all my TVs. CELLINI: And you are telling us you believe the plane remains embedded. MURTAGH: I can't tell from my vantage point. LIN: Sean , thank you so much for your eyewitness account there. Right now, we want to go to our affiliate NYW, reporting on this as we speak. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A little girl in his arms? JIM RYAN (ph), WNYW REPORTER: Did you see what happened, sir? Did you see what happened? What happened? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was in the PATH train, and there was a huge explosion sound; everyone came out. A large section of the building had blown out around the 80th floor. RYAN: Was it hit by something, or was it something inside. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was inside. RYAN: It was inside. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It looked like everything was coming out. All the windows and the papers. RYAN: What is on the sidewalk? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I didn't see anything. I just ran, and everyone on the passenger train just ran. I don't know if anyone was hurt, but I assume they were because the windows were all blown out. RYAN: Thank you. You have to assume a very, very terrible situation if that is indeed the case, because I'm sure there were people up there. We have lost -- again, our transmitter is on top of the World Trade Center. So we, apparently, have lost contact with Dick Oliver. But we are on the phone with an eyewitness. Rosa, can you hear me. Is Rosa there? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello? RYAN: Rosa? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes! RYAN: This is Jim Ryan here in the studio. What is your last name, please? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cardona Rivera . CELLINI: Again, you are looking at pictures now. We understand from a CNN vice president, Sean Murtagh, who was an eyewitness to this, that a commercial jet has crashed into one of the towers of the World Trade Center. You can see the smoke billowing out. There are flames billowing out there, a commercial jet crashing into one of these towers. At this point, we do not have official injury updates to bring you. We are only now beginning to put together the pieces of this horrible incident. LIN: Just a few second ago, we were tuning into one of our affiliates in New York, WNYW. We want to go to an eyewitness on the telephone right now. Jeanne, what can you tell us what you saw? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can tell you that I was watching TV, and there was this sonic boom, and the TV went out. And I thought maybe the Concorde was back in service, because I've heard about that sonic boom. And I went to the window -- I live in Battery Park City, right next to the twin towers -- and I looked up, and the side of the World Trade Center exploded. At that point, debris started falling. I couldn't believe what I was watching. LIN: Can you hear anything from your position now, ambulances, sirens? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Absolutely. Positively. There are crowds of people downstairs in Battery Park City. Everybody's come out from the buildings. This is the financial area in Manhattan. There are a lot of fire engines; I can see them from my window. LIN: Jeanne -- I don't know if you can tell which tower it is that is on fire, or the kinds of services that are inside that tower. JEANNE YURMAN, WITNESS: I can't tell what is inside. It's the northern tower versus the southern tower, and it seems to be all sides of the building, from what I can tell. The west side, the south side, and it looks like smoke's coming from the east side as well. CELLINI: Jeanne, can you see any of the debris currently on the ground area? YURMAN: Absolutely. It's continuing to flutter down like leaflets, and at first there was tons of debris, and it continues to fall out. And it looks like these uppermost floors are definitely on fire. CELLINI: Can you see any actual people in that area who may have been may have been hit by any of this debris or were not able to get out of way? Can you see any crowds that are maybe too close to where they should be? Anything like that? YURMAN: No, I don't think so. It's not a highly trafficked area at the base of the World Trade Center. So that is one fortunate thing. LIN: Jeanne, we are continuing to look at pictures of this devastating scene, according to Sean Murtagh, vice president of finance, who witnessed what he described as a twin-engine plane, possibly a 737. e was almost absolutely sure it was a large passenger jet that went into that. Jeanne, you are saying you didn't see anything initially. You didn't see a plane approach the building? YURMAN: I had no idea it was a plane. I just saw the entire top part of the World Trade Center explode. So I turned on the TV when I heard they said it was a plane. It was really strange. On Mar 28, 2006, at 10:48 PM, Nico Haupt wrote:

>>>>>>>This is a start:

GOOGLE: "I saw the plane" WTC

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http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22i+saw+the+plane%22+WTC2&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

David Gabbard, EdD

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good idea, i like that. and here is chapter 1: "The witnesses who didn't see any plane at south tower"

http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/03/10/nicos-timeline-cnns-reality-tv-hoax/

"...I have witnessed a horrible history. I was supposed to go to NJ for a

seminar. I was on the BQE bridge going into Chinatown, Manhattan, when I saw

an explosion at exactly 8:48am on the first Twin Tower. The radio said that it was a plane accident. I immediately called my sister in NJ, who normally

has to get to the World Trade Center station (she works for the Mayor's

office, 4 blocks away from WTC). I told her that there has been an accident

and told her to avoid that station. She said that my brother will drive her

to Manhattan instead. I then placed another phone call telling

my best friend to stay away from the area. My friend has jury duty and the

Supreme

Court is 3 blocks away. Suddenly, I saw a second explosion but did not see

the plane.

http://www.geocities.com/vnwomensforum/september11debate.html

(NOTE: BQE Bridge is local slang for Brooklyn Queens Express running over

the Williamsborough Bridhe)

http://www.panix.com/userdirs/timothy/wtc.html

"...We all looked up at the WTC to see one tower on fire. There was a ring

of fire encircling the building one floor...near the top. The floors ab! ove

the ring were enshrouded in thick black upwardly rising waves. Every second

or two the fire crept lower--floor by floor---dripping like wax down a

candle.

The thought of those people...they're being incinerated..there's no way to

control that fire. Then a huge fireball--monstrous in size--shot out and

up---like some horribly visible dragon's breath.(this was the fireball from

the impact of the second jet--I didn't realize this until after viewing the

footage of the attack)..."

http://www.asne.org/index.cfm?ID=4318

http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0110/images/m04.jpg

"...Then out of nowhere came this noise. This loud, high-pitched roar that

seemed to come from all over, but from nowhere in particular. AND THE SECOND

TOWER JUST EXPLODED. It became amazingly obvious to anyone there that what

we all had hoped was a terrible accident was actually an overt act of

hostility. I DI! DN'T SEE THE PLANE HIT,ALTHOUGH I WAS LOOKING AT THE TOWER AT

THE TIME. I have no recollection of pushing the button, hitting the shutter,

making the picture that appeared on Page 2 of the Daily News the next day, a

picture that was taken milliseconds after the second plane hit that tower..."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/have_your_say/september_11.shtml

... Gemma McDonald, Houston, Texas: On the morning of September 11. I was

getting ready to go to school, when the news station broke in with breaking

news. They said a plane had hit the world trade center. They were in the

middle of broadcasting that story live, whenever a big fireball appeared out

of the other tower. In order to see what hit the tower. They had to replay

the tape in slow motion. We didn't know what had happened because we didn't

see the plane, because it was so fast. Whenever I did figure out what

happened I got this weird feeling across my! body that I can't describe..."

TV'"witness":

http://www.vegasgangonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7574&page=2

"...stood there watching the coverage in the airport until my flight was called.

I saw the explosion in the second tower and thought it was because of the

first tower burning as I didn't see the plane hit. My flight was called

about 9:20 and I boarded the plane, we all sat there until about 9:35 when

the pilot announced taht all flights were cancelled. After I got of the

plane I went back to the TV and saw what was going on.."

Hispano amateur cameraman, who didn't see any object hitting south tower,

while filming both towers:

http://www.cruzate.com/nyhell/3.jpg

Compare with same geograpical position of towers aT Rosalee's site

(Antenna is in the back of second= north tower)

http://www.webfairy.org/2hit/blueplane.htm

http://www.cruzate.com/nyhell "...When I was back in the roof I saw

just before my eyes the explosion on Tower 2.

I didn't see the plane, nor did any of the other

guys on the roof. We speculated for a few

minutes. The only thing we could imagine was

on of the wings of the first plane hitting the

other tower and provoking the explosion, but

that was very unlikely...."

From an amateur camera clip, camera positioned on both towers:

"...we just saw another explosion (TV comment)...."

Person 1 in room: "...Another explosion Kate..."

Kate: "...i know, i know..." (noone of both refered to any plane)

http://www.911closeup.com/nico/day1-tower2-fireball-only.wmv

Don Dahler vs. ABC

Dahler:

...i didn't see any plane going in...that...that's just exploded...i...

Gibson:

We just saw another plane coming in from the side.

Dahler:

You did?? I...that was ..was...out of my view...

Gi! bson:

That was a second explosion.

You can see the plane come in just from the right hand side of the screen...

(=> Dahler's witness report 'overruled' by a TV monitor)

http://thewebfairy.com/911/haarp/reporter.didnt.see.plane.wmv

Witness Reporter Winston on NBC, which had same synched W-ABC clip:

the "building is exploding right now"

The studio host doesn't even see his monitor where the same W-ABC footage

shows same black flying object vanishing behind first tower, then followed by explosion and fireball (no sound). The studio host agrees with street reporter (who didn't report any incoming 'plane', that this explosion must have been forced from 'parts of the first plane..."

http://www.911closeup.com/nico/msnbc_2ndCGIplane_wrongtower_touch.mpg

http://www.911closeup.com/nico/CGIplane_touches_northtower.jpg

(RENDERING UPLOAD MISTAKE)

10)

http://thewebfairy.com/911/bombs/

Witness: NO ! second plane, it was a bomb....

FOX clip

Reporter is whisking witness away: "we heard about tv reports..."

"Gabbard, David A" < wrote:

This is a start:

GOOGLE: "I saw the plane" WTC

0000,0000,EEEE

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22i+saw+the+plane%22+WTC2&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

David Gabbard, EdD

Professor

Dept of C&I

College of Education

East Ca! rolina University

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Subject: Documentation please Jim.

Jim Fetzer writes

[[The "no plane" proposal requires ignoring ...hundreds if not thousands of

eyewitness reports.]]

Jim,

Could you please provide 50 such reports ? With documentation please ? If

you assert "hundreds of witness reports" to a large jet, then linking us to

50 of them is not an unreasonable request.

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Subject: RE: back to that damned question

Rob's right, of course. The "no plane" proposal requires ignoring or

distoring extensive film and video footage of the impacts, as well as

hundreds if not thousands of eyewitness reports. It is unscientific

to exclude relevant evidence that falsifies an hypothesis. This clip

Rob provides, absent proof of alteration, is sufficient to refute the

"no plane" hypothesis. So it has been refuted! Unless the no-planers

are prepared to argue for the alteration of every photograph and film

that records these events, their position ! doesn't get off the ground!

And the idea that government agents or whomever would be rushing off

to collect this footage, alter it, and return it, is simply absurd! I

would also observe that this monster Holmgren does not even know the

meaning of "inertia", which is the tendency of bodies with mass to

either remain at rest or in motion until acted upon by other forces.

His arrogance is exceeded only by his ignorance. That suggests to me

he is completely incompetent to discuss the issues involved here, one

more reason his opinion is meaningless and this debate is pointless.

Quoting Rob Rice <:

> I don't know why I am doing this, but here's but one example of the many

> amateur videos taken that day, when the event occurred.

> In this video

> Part Three, The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear

0000,0000,EEEEhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8914525417487877268

> Move the bar to 12:58 into the documentary.

> Now, surely you are not going to try to claim that those people were

actors

> or agents ie: "what's that plane doing?" or that this is another example

> "bluescreen CGI" at work..

> Since it was a cloudless day, maybe the whole sky over Manhatten was

> "bluescreen" and God himself was the GCI manipulator, since we know he

told

> Bush to invade Iraq..?

> There are a number of such amateur videos, and all show the same thing,

from

> different angles and levels of focus, including still images.

> The "all images and videos were faked" nonsense is just that, nonsense.

> They would have to show how each and every video, and every sti! ll photo,

was

> faked, and for what purpose, when some of those photos in fact can be used

> to show that the plane, the real plane, was not flight 175.

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> Subject: RE: back to that damned question

> [[It's called *Inertia* Gerard. ]]

> "Inertia" means that something continues its motion. "Stopped" means to

> cease motion.

> So it ceased its motion and continued it simultaneously ?

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